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	<title>Kommentare zu: Bridge-Building Can Ruin Your Life</title>
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		<title>Von: Eugene</title>
		<link>http://breakthesystem.org/2007/bridge-building-can-ruin-your-life/comment-page-1/#comment-241</link>
		<dc:creator>Eugene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 03:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s fun. ATP Subscribe to the RCC perhaps</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s fun. ATP Subscribe to the RCC perhaps</p>
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		<title>Von: light underlord</title>
		<link>http://breakthesystem.org/2007/bridge-building-can-ruin-your-life/comment-page-1/#comment-17</link>
		<dc:creator>light underlord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 16:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@a goat,
While I fall also in the obsessive programmer group, I do recognize the need for healthy diet and exercise. Saying that just because I&#039;m fit and healthy, it means I don&#039;t obsess about programming is just wrong.

@anon,
The original author does say:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Programming presents you with a problem and allows you to eventually solve it provided you don’t quit. A solution is out there somewhere.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
This implies that there are no problems in programming that can&#039;t be solved. I do agree that it&#039;s a tenuous implication, at best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@a goat,<br />
While I fall also in the obsessive programmer group, I do recognize the need for healthy diet and exercise. Saying that just because I&#8217;m fit and healthy, it means I don&#8217;t obsess about programming is just wrong.</p>
<p>@anon,<br />
The original author does say:</p>
<blockquote><p>Programming presents you with a problem and allows you to eventually solve it provided you don’t quit. A solution is out there somewhere.</p></blockquote>
<p>This implies that there are no problems in programming that can&#8217;t be solved. I do agree that it&#8217;s a tenuous implication, at best.</p>
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		<title>Von: anon</title>
		<link>http://breakthesystem.org/2007/bridge-building-can-ruin-your-life/comment-page-1/#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 01:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While the article wasn&#039;t great, your knee-jerk reaction reveals even more about its author:

&quot;First we have the claim that failure is not possible in programming. &quot;

What line exactly did he say that on?

“[T]he wheels that turn in the big blue room are largely unforgiving. Time marches on in one direction.”

You said: Somehow the author seems to think he has it all figured out: life, the universe and everything.

Huh?

Talk about reading too much into something.  

Next time hit the gym instead of responding to dribble with your own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the article wasn&#8217;t great, your knee-jerk reaction reveals even more about its author:</p>
<p>&#8220;First we have the claim that failure is not possible in programming. &#8221;</p>
<p>What line exactly did he say that on?</p>
<p>“[T]he wheels that turn in the big blue room are largely unforgiving. Time marches on in one direction.”</p>
<p>You said: Somehow the author seems to think he has it all figured out: life, the universe and everything.</p>
<p>Huh?</p>
<p>Talk about reading too much into something.  </p>
<p>Next time hit the gym instead of responding to dribble with your own.</p>
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		<title>Von: a goat</title>
		<link>http://breakthesystem.org/2007/bridge-building-can-ruin-your-life/comment-page-1/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>a goat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 13:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;Saurabh&quot;&gt;...From this and the preceding lines, one gathers this guy thinks writing poor programs is an optimum solution...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Another trait of good programmers is to carefully read specs and make sure you understand the verbage used.  Try re-reading that sentance.  He&#039;s saying that good programmers will wait until they come up with a good solution rather than put in the first piece of tripe they come up with.

And to the argument as a whole.  There are certainly different types of programmers.  On the whole, those who don&#039;t like the original article seem to be the type where programming is their job.  They may enjoy it, but it&#039;s not everything to them.  The other camp (which I admittedly belong to) are the kind who can&#039;t stop thinking about it, who go to sleep thinking about it, wake up thinking about it, and will interrupt brushing their teeth if they come up with a clean new way to do something.  The kinds of people who obsess about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite="Saurabh"><p>&#8230;From this and the preceding lines, one gathers this guy thinks writing poor programs is an optimum solution&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>Another trait of good programmers is to carefully read specs and make sure you understand the verbage used.  Try re-reading that sentance.  He&#8217;s saying that good programmers will wait until they come up with a good solution rather than put in the first piece of tripe they come up with.</p>
<p>And to the argument as a whole.  There are certainly different types of programmers.  On the whole, those who don&#8217;t like the original article seem to be the type where programming is their job.  They may enjoy it, but it&#8217;s not everything to them.  The other camp (which I admittedly belong to) are the kind who can&#8217;t stop thinking about it, who go to sleep thinking about it, wake up thinking about it, and will interrupt brushing their teeth if they come up with a clean new way to do something.  The kinds of people who obsess about it.</p>
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		<title>Von: Ryan Allen</title>
		<link>http://breakthesystem.org/2007/bridge-building-can-ruin-your-life/comment-page-1/#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 05:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually to further elaborate - if you&#039;re not exercising and generally being healthy - it&#039;s not a thing that&#039;s limited to enterprise software development, it&#039;s everywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually to further elaborate &#8211; if you&#8217;re not exercising and generally being healthy &#8211; it&#8217;s not a thing that&#8217;s limited to enterprise software development, it&#8217;s everywhere.</p>
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		<title>Von: Ryan Allen</title>
		<link>http://breakthesystem.org/2007/bridge-building-can-ruin-your-life/comment-page-1/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 05:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a software developer AND a personal trainer (almost). I got muscles, and I run. Ha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a software developer AND a personal trainer (almost). I got muscles, and I run. Ha!</p>
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		<title>Von: Che</title>
		<link>http://breakthesystem.org/2007/bridge-building-can-ruin-your-life/comment-page-1/#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>Che</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 01:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also agreed with much of what devizen had to say but I felt some of the post was specific to his experience rather than mine.

You seem to be taking it too literally. 

By the way swearing and ridiculing an argument do not help your case, it just makes you seem young.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also agreed with much of what devizen had to say but I felt some of the post was specific to his experience rather than mine.</p>
<p>You seem to be taking it too literally. </p>
<p>By the way swearing and ridiculing an argument do not help your case, it just makes you seem young.</p>
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		<title>Von: Saurabh</title>
		<link>http://breakthesystem.org/2007/bridge-building-can-ruin-your-life/comment-page-1/#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>Saurabh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 00:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The stupidest statement on that blog was &quot;A good programmer would rather leave a problem temporarily unsolved than solve it poorly&quot;. From this and the preceding lines, one gathers this guy thinks writing poor programs is an optimum solution. I feel sorry for the poor programmers who have to debug his code.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The stupidest statement on that blog was &#8220;A good programmer would rather leave a problem temporarily unsolved than solve it poorly&#8221;. From this and the preceding lines, one gathers this guy thinks writing poor programs is an optimum solution. I feel sorry for the poor programmers who have to debug his code.</p>
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		<title>Von: Sean</title>
		<link>http://breakthesystem.org/2007/bridge-building-can-ruin-your-life/comment-page-1/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 23:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess it&#039;s a personality thing, but I also really felt a lot of what he was saying. My years as a programmer really did ruin a lot of aspects of my personality. I couldn&#039;t leave the problems at work, they were always running through my head and I became very withdrawn and constantly preoccupied. And depressed. I wouldn&#039;t go back to being a full time programmer for a lot of money. I could see where a more experienced programmer might get past these things. But I never did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess it&#8217;s a personality thing, but I also really felt a lot of what he was saying. My years as a programmer really did ruin a lot of aspects of my personality. I couldn&#8217;t leave the problems at work, they were always running through my head and I became very withdrawn and constantly preoccupied. And depressed. I wouldn&#8217;t go back to being a full time programmer for a lot of money. I could see where a more experienced programmer might get past these things. But I never did.</p>
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		<title>Von: Enterprise Developer</title>
		<link>http://breakthesystem.org/2007/bridge-building-can-ruin-your-life/comment-page-1/#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>Enterprise Developer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with devizen.

After 8 years as an enterprise developer working too many hours, I can relate to his article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with devizen.</p>
<p>After 8 years as an enterprise developer working too many hours, I can relate to his article.</p>
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